Jonathan Ames and Jason Schwartzman are best friends, not to mention Thugs 4 Life. For the Fall issue, Patric Shaw photographed the boys in Hugo Boss and Jil Sander while they doled out some cosmic musings:
Chaos vs. order
I guess a little bit of both.
If I sit down in a restaurant, sometimes the table can annoy me. Like where the glasses are, and there’s too much shit. I like to order it so that it fits whatever neurotic feng shui I have at the moment. But then, I don’t like the order of having to be somewhere. Maybe that makes things more chaotic that way. But this job, I really have to be somewhere all the time.
But if you say, I like to sit down, the table’s chaotic, and then I like to order … and then I order [laughs].
I think, where our brains are at this time, this century, Jason’s response seems like the most reasonable one intellectually. A little bit of chaos, a little bit of order.
I will say that there’s a really gratifying moment that life can have, and it’s almost addictive. It’s like— and I’m not like this, there are creative people who truly love like a real crazy amount of conflict—but I do like trying to figure it out. Like puzzle-solving. When we’re working, its like, “Why isn’t this right?” It’s a little bit chaotic, it’s not working. Thinking, thinking, and then you go like, “Oh, that!” And then once you figure it out, it hits this moment—you have this conflict, and then it just sort of like… I enjoy that in music. I’m like, “Why isn’t this working, this chord? No. This chord? No. No. No. Boom. Oh wow, that’s the chord.
I think they need each other a little bit.”